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Who is Timothée Chalamet?

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Hi, girls, gays, and they's. The only people I can envision actually listening to this episode. My name is Julia here today with my wonderful, exquisite, inspiring, otherworldly, sometimes extraterrestrial co-host. Miranda. And we're back with yet another episode of The P& Raspberry. I'm very excited for this episode today because the P& Raspberry actually stands for
Timothy. We're going to talk about this man that we have talked about on the podcast many a times. Whether or not we've liked it, and by that, I guess, I mean, Miranda, whether or not Miranda has, you know, consented to the conversation around.
There's so many things that I don't consent to that we talk about on here. And vice versa sometimes.
And that's really one of the things that I love about Miranda and some of my other friends as well is that they let me be my true authentic self. Of course. So thank you. We've talked about some of the many times on the P& Raspberry. And as you all should know by now, we are only about like four or five days away from the Oscars by the time this is released, of course. And so it felt silly to focus on anything ahead of the Oscars besides...
Sir Salome. He's nominated for Best Oscar. Nope. Best actor. Best Oscar. In 50 years, they create a new award called Best Oscar winner. And they're like, it's for him. It's just created for him. Watch this space. It's just for him. So he's been nominated for Best Actor for his role of Bob Dylan in a complete unknown. Now, so far, I will say it is not actually looking fantastic for Timothy.
I do not know if he will go home with the win. However, I do think that he is a close second. I do think it's very much between him and Adrian Brody. However, and listen, I will say, by the way, I saw the brutalist. Adrian Brody was great. It's like at least, whatever. I'm not here to talk about other people. This is not our Oscars episode, but I can understand why, you know, the Academy, especially knowing.
their identities, if you will, would suck up Adrian's performance, if that makes sense. However, I thought that Timothy was wonderful in a complete unknown. I will say, okay, by the way, backtrack for a second. This episode, Miranda and I are going to talk about Timothy's press tour for a complete unknown slash just kind of his life and public persona in the past year or so, maybe two years, and dissect it and talk about it.
hopefully laugh, no tears unless they're of humor and whimsy for the lives that we live.
Or, you know, it just becomes too much time talking about him and I start to shed a tear.
Maybe. It's possible. Well, listen, I didn't say that everything I'm going to say is positive. Yeah. I never promised that. And thank God for that. Well, I also didn't say it's not going to. Anyways. Anyway. So that's what this episode is today. And I'm really excited that you're all here. And I'm really excited that you've all tuned in. Did you hear that?
Mm-hmm.
Just the shaking of a dog collar outside my door.
Hold on one second. He looks so cute looking back at us like that.
Yeah, he's watching me and Miranda from over his shoulder right now being like really suspicious and giving us notes, which I love. He's a Capricorn, so what are you going to do? Anyways, before we jump into it, I did just want to say... Timothy needed to be nominated for more Oscars than he has been. He was first nominated for his role of Elio Perlman, excuse me, and call me by your name, which I actually still think he should have received the Oscar for.
If you look at the other people for that year, it actually... Really? Whatever. I don't remember me. But apparently it's a thing with best actor, not actress, but it's a thing with actor that they really feel like they need to be older and it needs to be like their... 100th role instead of, you know, obviously in this situation, it was Timothy's first ever leading role. He had only done small parts beforehand. Nobody knew his name before coming by her name.
But for some reason, yeah, best actors known for being much more, it's almost like much more predictable because they don't want to give somebody such as Timothy the award, which is very, very strange. But he needed to be nominated for Beautiful Boy. He did. Did you ever watch it?
I've never seen it.
Okay, I don't think it's a great film at all. It's one of those films with a lot of flashbacks and sort of sequences and stuff. And not to be that person of like, I can't understand flashbacks. But, well, I haven't watched it in a long time. But it was just very like it was kind of losing me at points. I was just a little like how much time has passed. What, you know, what is this scene in relation to this scene? It was a little strange, a little messily done. However, his performance in it was transcendent. I don't even care if that's not a word.
I don't know what I just said, but it was that. It was so, so beautiful, so emotional. You know, I think that he was excellent as Bob Dylan. But like if I were to compare him as Bob Dylan versus him as Nick, I forget the guy's name. But it's like Beautiful Boys based off a real story. I would have chosen Beautiful Boy of anything. I just feel it took so much emotional range.
And he also should have been nominated for I'm sure I can think of something else. Dune? Dune Part 2.
Yeah.
So, anyways, guys.
Which is crazy that Dune came out this year. So he does have two movies that he's in nominated. at the Oscars this year, which is crazy.
That's the thing I'm like if Dune, if he never did a complete unknown and Dune came out when a complete unknown came out end of December, I believe he would be nominated because people were saying that that performance changed the trajectory of his career. People were saying that's the best performance they've ever seen in any science fiction film of all time.
whatever you know y'all are fake i really i'm getting sick now but it just it is very surreal and strange to me i think he's amazing as bob dylan but it's like funny almost to me that the closest we're now finally getting to him actually winning best actor is this role when i actually think he should have won it before or at least been this close before if that makes sense i think definitely beautiful boy his role there is a role that would be a winning role for best actor like that type of role is something that
you know, people might even call like Oscar bait type of role, right? Whereas Dune is not. Then on the other hand, a biopic, playing a real person is also to me an Oscar bait, whatever you want to call it, type of role.
100%.
I knew he'd be nominated before I saw the film. Yeah.
So that makes sense why he's been nominated for that. I haven't seen a complete unknown. But I do think one thing that's fascinating to me about it separate from like his actual performance in the movie. And we can get into this with talking about the press tour. But I do think it's so fascinating how much he learned about Bob Dylan and his career and his life and his personality and like his relationships with women as well as other musicians and blah, blah, blah.
And like that stuff is really interesting to me and cool that he put himself into it not much.
Yeah. Well, it is interesting, though, because I think that's amazing and extraordinary. But it is interesting because it wasn't supposed to be a five-year-long process. He was supposed to only have like a year or so. But then things kept getting delayed. And he kept, you know, the writer strike, the actor strike, all of that stuff. So it is funny to me, too, because I'm like, I wonder in an alternate universe what his performance looks like if he didn't have five years. And funnily enough, knowing Timothy, I'm like, it would still probably be...
extraordinary. Like, I'm sure at a certain point it was fun for him to just keep learning.
Yeah.
I thought you were to say that it's interesting that he's never met Bob Dylan because I think that's so strange.
That also is like so strange to me. Oh my God.
I'm like, just genuinely send an email or something at this point. I think that's so interesting.
I actually had to like double. I was like, I'm pretty sure Bob's because I was watching Timothy's episode with Nardwar. And during that, I was like, no, Bob Dylan is alive. But I literally had to Google it just to check because I was like, it's strange that.
Oh, I'm sure Timothy will do a great. The first time they ever heard, I was confused because I've heard two different things. I've heard, A, Bob was involved in the whole making of the film and was like in contact with James Mangold and all of this stuff. But then I also heard that when he tweeted, I heard that Timothy was like, I've literally never heard from the man ever. And then when he tweeted only a few months ago. Oh, you know, I saw Timothy Shalmay's playing me. I'm sure he's, he'll do, you know, better than anyone else could.
I, you know, have full faith. I heard that was the first time Timothy ever heard if he had any sort of approval or anything from Bob. So I just, it's strange to me. I'm like, why, why would someone making a biopic? Yeah, that's just, I can't even imagine. Imagine someone makes a movie about your life and you're still alive and you like don't talk to the person playing you, especially because Timothy's channeling him so much in real life as well. Yes.
I think because I know there's this clip of Timothy that I saw years ago in real time of him walking out somewhere late at night and paparazzi's taking photos of him and he's wearing sunglasses even though it's nighttime and they're taking photos and his hair is kind of messy. And he won't talk to anyone. He won't smile. And he finally says, like, I'm channeling Bob Dylan. And I think it was a little bit after it was announced that he would, he was chosen to play him. So he's been channeling him for a long time, like just for fun. So I'm like, Timothy, at a certain point, like you guys got to get tea together.
And also just like talking about him so much. Like talking about him.
in this way that is technically very parasocial. Like he knows him and his life and the things that he's done so well. That's the funny thing.
People always say that actors actually get very parisocial about other celebrities when they convey them. And remember Bradley Cooper talking about, what was his name, Leonard Bernstein? Was that his name?
Yeah. That's who he played, right? Yeah, that sounds right.
Him talking about him and like, the children being like, oh, like, we miss our dad. And Bradley being like, I miss him too. I miss him so much.
Literally.
Wait a minute. But I mean, I'm not even making fun of them. It's ironic and funny because that's what people are doing to them.
Yeah.
And they're doing it to other people, but because it's like their job, whatever. Anyways, this is nothing to do with anything. So let's just talk about Timot-T. I would love to dive right in. So I basically tried to keep track of because the reason I had the idea of this episode as well was from the gecko. This press tour seemed very different from the gecko. Videos of him were going viral on accounts you would never really see him on.
So these weird football accounts that have millions of followers on Twitter that no one we know would follow. posting Timothy Chalmay's face. And I was like, what is going on? So from the get-go, I opened up a Google doc and I said, Miranda, like, there is work that needs to be done. So the first thing I've written down is about this college football venture that he went on. I was working at NFL today at the time. So I mean, did I summon this? Is this my doing? We don't really know.
Probably.
So I couldn't even figure out, nor did I care to figure out what college football game was even being played that he went on and talked about. But he went on... this talk show, once again, don't know what it was, but he went on this college football talk show. Like the panel that they had.
Yeah, sportscasters talking about the game.
Yeah, he sat with the announcers and literally did play by plays of the players. And he was speaking very passionate. He was doing this thing because like I said, I worked at NFL today, so I've seen it all. He was doing this thing that's really impressive and exquisite where... you ask them, oh, where do you think this team will be at the end of the season? Or how do you think the rest of this will play out? Or something that requires prediction and something that requires such knowledge of the past and everything.
He was speaking a mile a minute, say, oh, well, this, you know, they're great at this and all this, like, as if it is his full-time job. Right. To know all of this very layered, intense information. And, yeah. As a result, like I said, these like football accounts, all of these just like middle age straight men were completely impressed and loving Mr. Salome. And it was crazy. It was a completely different side of him.
Not that I've never seen it before because I do think people that are surprised as his personality. I'm like, you just weren't that big of a fan, to be honest, because I've seen it before and especially when he's with. people he is trying to be friendly with, such as Zendaya, such as Austin Butler, like people where there's no, there's no plan for him to make us believe that he's romantically interested, if that makes sense.
Because I'm thinking of like Taylor Russell and just being on a press store with someone that like he could possibly be with or whatever. He's like that. When he's with just a friend, he's like that. I feel like he will sit there and talk about football and basketball. And I'll never forget the video of him in Dendaya where he said, sports star, swish. You know, so I'm not super surprised by it, but I am surprised by like the world's reaction to it. And I'm also surprised that.
this is the route that he went because that has nothing to do with Bob Dylan. That has nothing to do with like folk music. And it was weirdly smart of him. And I don't know how him and or his team came up with this.
I think for people like us who are slightly more familiar with him than the average person, it is like you're saying not surprising that he has this knowledge. Because to me it's like I think a lot of people forget that like, He is a boy and he like loves the Knicks.
A boy from New York who grew up in like the 2000s.
He went to LaGuardia. Like let's all be very honest with ourselves. If you know these type of boys from New York, like you know what he's like.
Like he's not a virgin hold up and just running lines all night.
Yeah. And so that's why it sounds spicy to me either. However, I do think it was like really interesting that he did that. And I also agree I'm surprised by the reaction to it. And I think it's, I mean, to me, I'm like, I feel like he was just like, I want to do this. Can I do this? And somehow I found his way in there.
And I think that some of it is him taking advantage of the opportunity where he's doing a film that's A, it's not fully, you know, family friendly. And B, he's in it alone pretty much. You know, it's not like, I'm sure with Dune, it got, we kind of touched on this a few months ago, like we're sure it gets a little bit old.
to be cast with these other people that are just around your age and attractive and have big fan bases as well. So every interview you do is just, tell us how much you know about each other. Tell us, tell us who you would kiss if you had to. You know, and so I think maybe he looked at this film and he was like, this film really is just me. I mean, Monica Barbaro or whatever her name is.
was actually in it quite a bit and she was amazing and um but but yeah I think he knew for the promotion it's pretty much just him and he was like let me just do what I want to do and I think that he did take inspiration from Bob in the sense that Bob genuinely did what he did and didn't care about what was expected of him so I think Timothy's just like I like football I like basketball I'm now famous I can do these things let me go and do it and yeah he's at the point in his career where he can just do a lot of these things
pretty easily without having to like fight very hard to get on freaking NFL or whatever it was. But I actually really like that point about it's like Bob because I think that's so now that you say that I think that really is so true that he's like in this more abstract way still channeling Bob Dylan.
Right. And he did dress like him on a few red carpet. So he's obviously not doing away with the subject of this film. But I think, yeah, maybe he's just in this era himself of like not fully caring, knowing his talent, knowing his ability. And I think it was really smart. I wonder how much of this was like his team as well because it was just so smart.
I mean, I see countless tweets every day with hundreds of thousands of likes of people saying, I've resisted liking this man for so many years and he's finally got me. And it's like people of every gender saying this, every age, everything. Because before he was, yeah, he was really well liked and, you know, so many girls were so in love with him. But he was in this specific lane of artsy. Twinkie, non-binary amputee tease.
I've never seen him as only that. You know. Me neither.
Me neither. But I think the general public, like if I were to say at a party, a few years ago, if I were to stay at a party, but I love Timothy Chalmeh and then show like a guy, a photo of him from calling by your name or something, they'd be like, okay. You know, whereas now I think he's entering this territory and showing people he belongs in this territory of you know, how a guy would react when you say you like Tom Cruise or Pedro Pascal. Pedro Pascal, by the way, men love. Really? Yeah.
I mentioned Gladiator and like all these guys were like, this guy love is in that. And they, I think they said like Paul or something. I was like, oh yeah, Paul Mescal, he's like the lead. And then I like showed a picture or something. And they were like, no, not him. And it was, I think because of the last of us or something. Yeah, probably. Yeah, probably.
So yeah, I think he's just now reached a much larger audience and an audience that is when you talk about a movie star, you really are talking about people who this bulk of America is, are fans of.
So middle-aged men and women that do not have this obsession necessarily with films and TV, they're not going to go look you up, you know, but they randomly hear your name in passing and they go, yeah, I'm going to go see that movie. It's a Sandra Bullock movie. I'm going to go see it. It's a Tom Cruise movie. I'm going to go see it.
You want to be that star that the suburban town book club mothers say, don't tell Johnny, but the things I would do with Brad Pitt. That's what you want. I think he's got that.
It's actually funny because, like, my mom loves Timothy.
My mom does not. She refuses to really acknowledge him.
Interesting. But she loves him for the like artsy French boy.
Right, but your mom's also different.
Because my mom is different. Exactly.
Yeah.
And also because he like kind of reminds her of my brother because they're both like tall and skinny and white and whatever. But I want to, I feel like my mom seeing this other side of him, she like, yeah, wouldn't like him as much or would not even that necessarily, but would be like confused.
Right.
Whereas I'm like, mom, like you're not understanding he's like this boy from New York City. Like that is such a type of trope or whatever you want to call it.
Of course. To me. Even, even, yeah, it's been happening to me in real life a lot lately because I obviously work in television. So a lot of my coworkers. including a certain co-worker, are very into acting and obviously television and talk shows and all of this stuff. And, you know, you get along with them great. And then all of a sudden, they're like, shut up. Oh, my game is on. And I'm like, what? And I'm, like, trying to talk to them.
And they dead serious are glued to the TV. Like, not trying to be funny. Like, I'll always be like, guys. They're like, no, I'm not kidding. Shut it. And I'm like, what? And they're dead serious. And this guy that, you know, he was obviously trying to pay attention to me and like dead serious couldn't take his games off or couldn't take his eyes off this college football game. And I was like, wait, I like didn't see this for you.
And then he like told me this whole background of him being really into, of him playing, I guess, football and basketball and being like actually really aggressive in basketball. But I was like. Why would you do that? I don't know. It's just crazy because, yeah, I think about a lot of men, this just lies this. And they just don't, you know, it's not always the first thing they publicize about themselves, but it's, but it's there.
And we got to chew on it and swallow and digest, you know, and you can either poop it out or throw it back up. Right. And I've chosen to. to poop it out. I've chosen to let it, let it fester inside of me and accept it and live it and love it and learn it. And then release it. And your mom may be wouldn't and that's okay. That is what it is. Yeah. I actually want to go through some other stuff that he did in the press store as well. I'm going to do this a lot quicker because they're, you know, pretty kind of related to each other.
So after the whole college football thing, people on the internet and on Twitter were finding out a lot about his childhood as it relates to famous athletes. So there was him at age like. I don't even know, like 14 or something, waiting by the stage door to meet this famous basketball player. I don't remember, I'm so sorry, I don't remember any. No, yeah, I don't remember any. No, I like, no, I know athletes. I just don't remember. I just was too lazy to look this stuff up.
I'm like, it's not super relevant, to be honest, the small details. I just wanted to give you guys a general gist. I just, I don't remember the specific images, but this is a general gist. He won a contest to meet a basketball player as well. And this is like him as a teenager. Like no idea he'd be famous. He was just genuinely happy in posting this stuff. And then there was also a picture of him at age like five or six playing soccer against. I don't think they were on the same team.
I think he's playing against a now famous UK football player. Like, it's literally him and this guy as, like, like, six-year-olds. Like, they're adorable, like, little kids. But they're, like, literally, like, playing soccer together. And the guy in question is, like, one of the biggest football players in the UK now. See, Timothy just passed. Which is, like, that's not, I guess, as interesting because that wasn't, like, crazy lore. He wasn't, you know, whatever. But just crazy and interesting.
He also went to Minnesota. He was going to a lot of these, like, college. football games and stuff. So he went to Minnesota. And then he attended a game with his movie dad from Interstellar Matthew McConaughey at the University of Texas. He also went to Vanderbilt. He was just all at these like fun, very sportsy schools.
And in Minnesota, actually, they named December 5th a complete unknown day officially. Pretty crazy. And then Matthew McConaughey, like, totally ran out. Because wasn't Matthew McConaughey like a professor at University of Texas or something? Was he? I don't know. Then at the L.A. premiere, like I said, he was dressing like Bob a lot, dressing very strange and cuckily. He brought a Bayblade with him to the LA premiere. Literally for no reason at all, I was just holding in his hand.
And then he was also wearing a bunch of pins, including ones of himself and like of his face, which that I think is very funny. And that I think is him playing into this idea of doing whatever you want and just having fun and taking advantage of the fact that the film really is of him and the posters of his face. Because I genuinely don't believe that Timothy Chalame is a very. conceited person, you know, like I think it's, it's probably funny to him that he would do something like that.
I mean, that's like the type of thing I would do personally.
Yeah.
Like that's, and I wouldn't call it conceded or narcissistic, but it's like, it's more nuance than that. And it's kind of campy almost.
Yeah. No, exactly. Exactly. Like that's what I mean. I think that he just appreciates the humor in that. And then he came to the late show. And for those you that don't know, I was working at 6 a.m. that day by about 8 a.m. I had thrown up. At late show.
Just for context, for those who might.
No, I was working at news at 6 a.m. Sorry. Why would I be at late show at 6 a.m.? You're right. You're right. You imagine. Why would you be? So I was working at news before my late show shift. And by about 8 a.m. I'd thrown up everything in my system. I hadn't even eaten that day. It felt so sick. And completely threw up by like 8 a.m. was dead on the CBS News 24-7 bathroom floor on well. Spent time in the nurse for so long. And it wasn't one of those experiences.
The throwing up didn't make me feel better at all. It was one of those like, I'm going to do it again. I was so nauseous. I literally could barely stand up because... Just anything made me feel crazy. So I was with the nurse for a long time. And all I do there is help with guests. So I was very on edge because if a guest comes, I would have to greet them. And I would be disgusting in their face. Like there was like tears down my face that I'd thrown up.
So obviously in any other situation, my news shifts ends at one. I would just go home. However, Timothy was coming a late show that day. And it was actually the late show holiday party after that as well. And I texted all my coworkers and I was like, yeah, so I can't go home. I just literally can't miss it. And two of my friends were coming to see Timothy as well. Couldn't miss it. It's time for me to go to late show. I'm staying at news for so long because I cannot walk. Okay.
It's about a 12 minute walk or so. Finally, I walk over speed of a snail. It takes me like 20 minutes or so. I get there past the time. You should already be there. Everybody leaves to change. No, everybody's changed and is heading downstairs to help the audience. I'm still dead. I'm in our office laying down on the desk, falling asleep, not even changed. It's like 2 p.m., which is when the audience starts lining up.
This guy in charge of ticketing comes up to me, and he's like, just take your time, relax. Five minutes later, I'm going to call for my manager. Hey, how are you? And I go, I'm good. And she goes, really? And I was like, uh, yeah. And she goes, oh, you haven't been throwing up and on the verge of passing out and unable to walk and you're not still upstairs. And I was like, no, yeah, that happened. And she goes, okay, so you do need to go home.
You cannot be around people like this, nor can you help an audience of 420 people like this, to which I said, I don't know what you're talking about. I will be fine. Um, Timothy Chalmay comes today. So I'm, I'm just not missing that. Uh, and my two friends come today as well. That's not happening. Um, and she said, well, unfortunately, it does need to happen. Uh, and she said, I will get you forcibly removed. Uh, if you do not go into care of yourself. Uh, so I go downstairs. I'm lingering. I'm trying to figure it out.
The girl in charge that day, my coworker was like, hey. You need to get out of here. The manager called me and told me if you're still here by the time she gets here. She would be very upset. And I said, you know, I think it's fine. So I called my manager back. And I said, can I go to my brothers and rest and then come back just for Timothy's segment just to see him? And I won't go to the party, nothing. And she goes, this is the most ridiculous request I've ever heard of my life.
This will be considered your Christmas present. And you better not ask me for anything ever again. Or in the new year, she said. And I said, that's fine unless the day it comes on, then I'm absolutely doing this again. And she said, that's fine. So I came back and I watched something. We were both wearing scarves, which is funny. I think his was yellow. Mine was green.
Because he's channeling Bob.
Yes. And I guess I was too. And yeah, it was glorious. Anyways, so sorry, that was really long-winded, folks. But I want you to know, like, you can't just say Timothy on SNL. Sorry, don't know why I said that. You can't just say Timothy on Late Show around me and expect me to not have like a deep emotional connection to the history that is his appearance. Can I just say this? Love him so much. It like was not all that. Like I was fully in that theater. My thing is I would have been, and I said how to my friends too. Like my friends didn't go.
I actually really do not know if I would have gone. But I just couldn't live with the idea of everybody I love saying they saw him and not me. Especially like I got my friends of tickets. They were like, we don't even want you to miss it because you, like the reason we're here. Like what do you mean? But yeah, it wasn't all that. It wasn't like particularly funny or interesting. And I say this is somebody who loves Timothy. But I'm happy for him.
He flopped.
And it was pretty insightful to learn about Bob. Like he spoke about some interesting things about B-O-B. Interesting. So.
So that's that. Probably he was having like a lot of empathy for you and you weren't feeling well. So he was like feeling. I think so. You know, it really dimmed his life.
Unfortunately. I was like he's cold. Because I had like the chills and everything. I was like he has it too.
Yeah.
He actually did mention that it was cold. The one interesting thing that he mentioned on the show was that he like gained weight to play Bob. And Stephen was like, where? Yeah. Where? And Timothy kept making jokes about his own body being like, yeah, I don't know. I'm such a stick. I mean, he gained like 20 pounds, which I guess if you're like 6-2 is pretty dispersed. So yeah.
Something else that I wanted to mention was that he did not participate in varieties actors on actors, which I thought was really interesting, especially because usually the actors on actors really tends to be the people that are sort of predicted to be involved in the Oscars race. And I think that Timothy very much knew he'd be involved in the Oscars race. I think that, you know, an interesting theme with his press tour. Well, okay, let me, you know what? Let me go through every single thing really quickly, just bullet by bullet. I won't stop and talk about it. And then I'll make this point that I'm making. Okay.
So he didn't participate in Varieties, actors on actors. He did an Instagram live in front of a giant screen in like some warehouse dancing to black eyed peas and like, sweating, thrashing his head, thrusting, moaning, groaning, fist bumping, very New Jerseyan of him. And then he actually posted the live on his Instagram afterwards as well, which is like very rare for him.
He went on SNL as both host and musical guest, performed some Bobby songs, although he's not a singer. He posted a video of him lip-syncing to Edith Pilaf in front of the Eiffel Tower dressed very American, dressed very American, but also like French, gangster chic, like low New York boy that needs bagel. He went to the Japan premiere of a complete unknown instead of the Critics' Choice Awards, where he was also nominated.
There, he also blessed a pregnant fan's stomach to which everybody was calling him the in real life, Lison Aga Yi.
Yeah.
He interviewed Kendrick Lamar about the Super Bowl, and he actually allowed Kendrick to position himself to look taller than Timothy, considering Timothy's like 6-2, Kendrick's fully like 5'4. And Kendrick looked at that same height as him, so I'd have to assume that, you know, Timothy was chill with that, whatever box Kendrick was standing on. I think that's awesome.
No, isn't Timi just like leaning?
And a theme that I've been hearing nonstop is the quote, let that white boy do whatever he wants. So the point that I was going to make is that I think a theme with this press tour is he's doing things for his fans. And I think he's trying to lay away from, for example, variety actors on actors. He's like, I don't really care. I'm going to be paired with someone random. Whatever. Could be a bust. Critics choice awards. He's like, whatever. I don't care. He probably was like, I'm not going to win anyways. Doesn't matter.
I think he's making almost a sort of point of, I mean, yes, it would be great to win awards. but I'm going to show up for my fans, especially the fact that he went to the Japan premiere. It didn't come out in Japan until recently. The Critics Choice Awards was only a few weeks ago. And it came out in America all the way in December.
On Christmas, right?
Yeah. And so I think that it's really telling, especially a country like Japan, that's not his biggest fan base, of course. It's not America. It's not France even. It's not England, right? It's Japan, which a lot of, Western celebrities. Like I said, that's not necessarily their biggest following. So for him to prioritize that and go and hug everybody, kiss everybody, bless a pregnant fan's stomach, it's very showing of he's here for the fans.
He appreciates the ways in which we all support him. He appreciates. people showing up and showing out for this movie, especially that it's already come out in a lot of places. And you could probably, I'm sure people in Japan can already access some recording of it or something somewhere. And so I think that's the really nice thing about it. And it's really like earnest and honest. And like even him interviewing Kendrick Lamar, it's a fun thing of like, hey, I know you all are about to watch the Super Bowl. Let me go interview this guy. We're all really excited for it.
And it also speaks to Timothy's personality. He's a big fan of rappers. And I'm sure he's a big fan of Kendrick specifically. um you know lip-sinking to edith pilaf like i feel like it's such a direct like here's something funny silly cutesy for the fans to enjoy as opposed to me going to some award show and which is mostly for him right not that we don't want him to go but just
you know, at the Japan premiere, for example, he can meet literally like a thousand fans versus us just watching him through our television sit at a dinner with Kylie, right? Like it was just, I feel like this whole press tour, he is trying to prioritize a more personal feel, a more personal touch, even going live on Instagram. There's no cutting the live. There's no editing it. It's a more personal look into how he celebrates and his life and like the fun that he wants to have now. And I think that's really quite sweet and it's innocent.
He's not doing anything offensive or strange or weird.
I agree with this, but I also do think it is also largely for himself and like it's stuff that he wants to do because he wants to do it. I mean, we're getting a lot of, like, his personality through a lot of the things that he's doing for the press tour.
And it's like, then he's showing the fans himself.
Yeah. You could call it more unconventional press, um, a lot of the stuff that he's done. But also just because like, yeah, because I think it's fun for him. And like, it's an interesting question about the award shows because. I think, you know, going to an award show, I imagine, is fun in its way. But I also feel like you have heard celebrities talk about, oh, yeah, like it can get boring or especially like during awards show season. You're going to one after the other.
And it's just like, yeah, you're sitting having dinner, like watching a bunch of other people win awards. Like, I do think that people have expressive that can get monotonous or whatever. So for him to be doing other things makes sense to me. out of just like enjoyment for him as well. And I also want to bring up something that's not on the list, which I mentioned earlier, which was his Nardwar interview, which I watched most of. I don't think I watched the whole thing. It's really long.
And actually it's the first time that I'd ever seen like a full interview from, or no, I think I watched Chapel Rones before. But anyway, I like got a little bit into Nardwar and I was like, I'm obsessed with him, love his interview style. I want him to do that to me, please and thank you. But anyway, Timothy's one is, you can tell that he's having so much fun.
And also he gets to spew so much knowledge about Bob Dylan that he has, as well as talk about himself. And that was actually really interesting with his Nardwar interview where Nardwar was like, bringing up stuff about Timothy and his past and his childhood, as he always does with everybody he interviews, but also bringing up stuff about Bob Dylan's life as if it were Timothy's life, like, you know, like in the same way that he does.
Um, so yeah, I feel like he's doing a lot of stuff that he also just personally enjoys. And that's, that's the thing to me, like,
I know we want to get into talking about him as like a movie star and as one of the frankly few people we have who are younger, who are like actually movie stars, you know, like very much so and unique and entertaining to watch and fascinating. And, you know, like we keep talking about like Tom Cruise, for example, like sort of on that same type of level.
as the actors and stars that we've had more from other generations. He is doing something that is so fitting for our generation, I think, so new, so fresh. And also, like, it just is really working. It's super entertaining. And you can tell that it's very genuine to him. And, like, he wants to be doing it. And also, the guy who...
directed or filmed or something helped with the um music the instagram live thing that he did that same guy i learned this in his nard war interview is doing some sort of like documentary type of thing about timothy's press tour so that will come out eventually too and he's the guy is like usually directs other stuff. I don't remember exactly what Timothy said.
He usually does music videos or something like that. I don't remember, but he's like a filmmaker in some capacity. And now he's like following around Timothy on this whole journey. And it is also because like he's the main character, like you were saying earlier, he's the main character of this movie. It's really the first time where he's, I mean, Dune was like that, but it wasn't like that because it was an ensemble as well.
where he's the lead, and he very much so can do what he wants and act as the lead on the press tour.
I didn't know that that guy was coming out with that documentary. I think that's so interesting and so fun. I totally agree with you that it's what he wants to do, and I think that sort of the point that I was trying to make is that when a star... stays so true to themselves and has fun and does stuff that they want to do, but they then share it with their fans. To me, that is you looking out for your fans and you doing your fans a favor.
I mean, he's not an idiot.
People want authenticity.
Right, exactly. He knows the power that he has. He knows that, you know, the average woman literally freaks out when he posts like a selfie or something. And so I think especially. you know, him being more active on social media and stuff. It is like a bit of a thank you to fans of, you know, yeah, I'm a private person, but like I'll, yeah, I'll show up to this premiere.
Yeah, I'll, you know, like I said, prioritizing something like his premiere where it's the fans are there for him and for this film that he is the biggest part of as opposed to the critics choice for it's, for example, where it's not just for him. Like he is. I think thanking his fans as much as he can. And he's not making an emotional thing. He's not posting tears and celebrate and whatever. He's not saying this word for word, but that's the way that I'm choosing to read it. And I think, yeah, a lot of it is him just being like, I want to have fun and I want to show.
He is one of those sort of like actors, which almost reminds me of Zendaya a little bit where he is really quite private and doesn't typically post that much and, you know, isn't like you're saying, interacting with. His followers that much, but when he does do something, he is outside and he's like fully in it and going to every premiere and going to every event.
Yeah. And I think that he's someone like Z that's very proud of his projects. And he's been really honest about how proud he is, especially of a complete unknown because it took them so long to make. And so he's been really... really transparent of like, yeah, I'm proud of this. I hope, I hope people see it. I hope that Bob is proud. I hope that it's, you know, well done and whatever. And I think that's awesome and exciting. And I think that it pulls in the fans as well to want to be a part of things.
Oh, and he also did a 60 Minutes interview, which I'm, like, obsessed with. I love 60 Minutes. And I think it's, like, such a good thing for him to do. I mean, that reaches such a...
different audience for him and also it's like he does really and this is what is good about him as in terms of like star power he does really well in interviews and like he charms people and he just can talk and be funny and silly and goofy and also charming and knowledgeable about the things that he's doing like
Yeah. I think that it's such an art. I've been thinking about this so much lately. I think it's such an art when a celebrity, or I guess I should say the celebrity's team and their publicists and managers and all of that, understand what's very trendy and like what show someone or just, I guess, their fan base will actually want to watch and just watches regardless of like maybe who the guest is and everything. And then what show is very serious and respected and refined and will therefore
help them reach a further audience as opposed to this weird middle ground. And so, and I have to compare it to this. This is so funny, by the way, because Timothy was always the person I would compare people to. But now I'm going to compare him to Billy Eilish. Hello. She goes on chicken shop date, for example, something that her exact fan base would watch and know exactly what that is and would be engaged. And like I said, would probably watch even if it wasn't her. They would just, you know, want to watch Amelia in general. But then she also went on.
CBS Sunday mornings. And that was a whole, you know, many hour long thing, very respected interview, very respected interviewer, company, all this stuff, and was able to talk about her music and how it was made specifically and the process of it all in depth to a really respected organization and reaching an audience that
she wouldn't have reached otherwise because we are not necessarily watching CBS Sunday mornings. And when I say we, I mean, you know, people in this demographic. So someone like our parents, for example, would watch that and be like, wow, she, you know, she really does a great job making her music. Not this weird kind of middle ground of, you know. whatever. It's just a good understanding of here's exactly what your target audience wants to listen to or wants to watch or whatever.
And then here's exactly the audience that you normally wouldn't have reached is going to tune into. And it's going to respect you for further. And I think that like Timothy also does such a good job at understanding when the tone of something is more serious and more about like his craft and how he's such a great actor versus when they do just want a more fun, silly interview for him to talk about his interest.
I also do like Timothy, as much as he can get like a little bit quiet, he's good at not seem seeming unappreciative because I do think those interviews where it's like, do you prefer boxers or briefs? I understand they can probably be so annoying, but I do, it is like weird sometimes when you watch a somebody sort of obviously be over it.
Yeah.
Yeah. Because then I'm like, I mean, you could have not like agreed to it. Yeah. And I'm not critiquing them, but I'm just saying it is nice because Timothy's, I guess what I'm trying to say is he's a good sport about everything. That's what I was just going to say. He's game for everything.
Press in press tours for films and TV have become strange. Like they have become. Yes. Half of it is doing, like, ridiculous, like, BuzzFeed interviews. No offense, BuzzFeed, I love you. But, like, you know, the questions that are like, because people want to see actors doing other things and being silly and answering the stupid questions. And then there's also the other side of press where it is the more serious, like, let's talk about your craft and how you got into this role.
So, yeah, press is odd. And when somebody, like, I'm trying to think of an example, but, like, Okay, I was just watching severance. Christopher Walken, I don't know if he did any press like this. Probably not. But I can imagine somebody like him being put in an interview with a question is like, do you prefer boxers or briefs? He would literally be like, what the fuck is going on?
Like, what are you? No, there's no way.
You know, like.
He'd literally be like, what do you prefer? Yeah.
So that makes sense that. It's kind of like read the room with certain actors.
But anyway. No, of course. I'm not defending. Yeah, I'm not defending like ridiculous kind of journalism like that. But I just mean it is nice how he's able to change his tone based on what they might want.
But also like I don't even mean to call it ridiculous.
But then he's also just a good sport in general and kind of down for like a lot.
Because the purpose of it is for fans, frankly, to see. Actors they like doing silly things and I get that. You know, I do think sometimes it goes too far or it is ridiculous or unintelligent or whatever you want to call it. Yes. But anyway, I just, it's just to say press is strange. Like press tours are so crazy that people do. And he really with this press store has taken it into his own hands.
He has. I was going to say, I mean, that's, that's, this is like such a great place for us to like land on because. And the moral of the story is, like, him and his team both have done a great job creating their own reality with this. And I think, like, there's such power in, obviously, you know, one of my favorite films is that Billy Elish documentary.
Oh, no, I didn't know it was one of your favorite films. Okay.
My friends and I just rewatched it.
Yeah, I saw you logged it. I saw you logged it.
And we watched it right after challenges.
It was like, I know that she just watched it with her friends when you were. There for Caroline's birthday.
Whenever me and like five of my friends are together. No, literally. No, we're putting on Billy Irish documentary. Circa 2021. But obviously I feel so bad for celebrities regardless of what their, you know, talent is for certain situations such as press tour or touring, like situations where they're going to be tired, they're going to be somewhat miserable at points. They're going to be under stress at certain points.
And there's this moment where Billy says, or no, no, no, I'm sorry. Well, she kind of does say this in her documentary, but then it's also, I think she was kind of just saying it in the moment, like, to say it. But now for her new tour, she's, like, said it. And I think it's, like, actually more real. But she says, like, I'm always miserable. Like, the tour she's on right now. She's like, I've been miserable on, like, all my tours. Oh, yeah. And I don't want to go. And I. just like hate it. It's like not fun for me.
She actually said in her, what is it, Vanity Fair, whatever the interview is that she does every year. The one from this year, she was like, yeah, touring has always been miserable for me and it's only been just right now that I've been like, wait, how can I make this fun for myself?
Yeah, exactly. She said, like, she met with her team and said, how can we actually make this a good experience for me? And now, in all her clips from tour, she has like multiple friends with her and she's like, running around the stadium beforehand and whatever. And so I think it's, and I'm sure in her head, too, it was even like a revelation of like, wait, can we just change this to make it more enjoyable? Like, do we have to do exactly what?
Because I do think there is a point, especially for young people in this industry, there's a point where they realize, oh, wait, like I do have control or I should have control over my environment. And I think like especially when you're younger, And you're just getting into something like acting or singing, you're like putting the control on other people's hands. And you're thinking, oh, I don't want to rock the boat by asking for the environment to improve it.
And I also think you do certain things based on how they've always been done. Based on the way things have always been done. And so I actually saw a tweet somewhat recently where someone was like, Wow, Billy Elish's concert. It's only 90 minutes. That's ridiculous. And everyone was like, that's actually not ridiculous at all. That's a very normal length for a concert. You're just used to your fave performing, pretending to go backstage and then coming back out and doing seven more surprise songs, which is fine and that's great for your fave.
But like, that's not what she's choosing to do, nor is that required of her. Just because other things have changed does not mean that other people need to do things a certain way. Yeah. And I think especially like, the type of music she makes. It just like makes sense that she, whatever. Anyways. But so thinking of Timothy, for example, like I do wonder, I'm curious to see that documentary now, the one about his press tour, but I do wonder if maybe he like genuinely met with his team and was like, can we just have fun with this?
Do you have to, does a press store have to be in front of a camera with a white backdrop and with a big magazine? Or can I literally go to a college and talk to their marching band? Because technically, press tour is literally just that. It's you on a tour doing press, promoting. You could do that anyway. He could stand out a garbage can in New York City and we could gather. And you know what I always wonder as well? I bet the lookalike contest put ideas in his head.
I was just going.
I bet. Because I bet his team was sitting there going, Timothy, you just made a promotion moment out of a literal gathering in Central Park.
Washington Square Park.
And I bet they were all gagged of like, wait a minute, you could loki garner a following, a physical following around you in any setting. You're Timothy Chalemay.
And then they, did you see they brought the guy who won on what for a promo for S&L?
For S&L, yeah. Yeah. He came on the Drew Barrymore show. We were all like, what?
So like that, it just... works so well for this day and age. Like the regular interviews and regular press store works too. I mean, like, for example, you look at the wicked press store, which has been going on for months now. It's pretty much a traditional press tour. I mean, there's some things that are out of the box.
Yeah, they're just sitting giving interviews.
Yeah. And people watch that and people talk about it. Like, don't get me wrong. That totally works. I mean, there's also the star power of the two leads, but. Timothy is doing something very interesting that actually, like, I feel like could be studied by publicists.
Oh, I think it'll change things greatly. I think that you will see people, celebrities, going, you know, meet me at this coffee shop. And, you know, we're also regressing as a society, which is not great in a million other ways. But I think with celebrity culture... That's one of the biggest areas, too, where you see this, this like loop around to almost like an early 2000s age. And I think even like talking about Charlie X, DX and Brad and everything, right?
And she's created this like almost nostalgic type feel of being like face to face with people and being like messy and being whatever. And once again, my girl, Billy, she makes it a point on all of her tours, no matter how famous she's gotten and how much more dangerous this has gotten. But she makes it such a point on all of her tours to do a, I forget what it's called, like a barricade run or barricade walk or something. I favorite what it's called.
But she like literally goes up to the barricade and like basically like throws her body on them and she lets her fans like grab her shirt, like grab her face, which is crazy.
But it is like real like rock star.
Yeah, right. It's this old, you know, real age of exactly like rock starism of I'm not, you know, you can't. You can't not be in my personal space now just because I'm famous. It doesn't matter. I don't care. Come over here and hug me. Come over here and like touch my skin, whatever, which I think goes too far. Yeah. And that's why obviously celebrities have stopped doing that. But I think that following this press tour, every single actor, actress, singer, whomever.
will completely try to achieve this level of authenticity that I think that Timothy just has naturally. I really do.
I also have been liking his outfits.
I'm proud of him. I think that he's at his best and most charming when he's just being himself. And not that before was not himself. Of course, we all have, you know, multiple layers to who we are. But I think it's really fun that he's like, let me show you this other side to myself that you might not have known.
Yeah.
Because the stuff he does in his free time, he doesn't sit down and read Shakespeare and like drink a glass of champagne in his free time. Maybe he's done it before. But in his free time, he's watching football. He's watching basketball. He's like talking along with his TV. He's literally watching a college football game going, oh, I wish I could be there. You know, like that's fantastic. T, fantastic. I'm really proud of him. And in a just world, baby, the Oscar is yours. We don't know. I mean, we'll catch up with you guys in a few days, but we don't know. We don't.
We'll see. That would be crazy if he wins.
It's just so, I'm scared. Well, he's only 27, so this is so, or 28, whatever. So this is so stupid to even comment on right now. But I am scared because he's so good. What if it's a situation like Leonardo DiCaprio where everyone's constantly like, oh, he'll win it another day. Like we need to give it to this like 70 year old right now. And then he's all of a sudden, he's 50. And we're like, wait, how is he not an Oscar winner? Which, like I said, that's ridiculous to me to say, because he's literally 28. Like, he can literally win one next year or something. Like, it's whatever.
But I'm just, like I said, he should have one by now. And that's not something that we've done. To close us out.
Because I'm feeling weird about praising Timothy for an entire 57 minutes. And I'm not even going to say anything mean. What I'm going to say is I think what has occurred is that it's actually like gratifying to me for him to be more himself in this very public way. Because to me it's like I've always known who he was.
And it would annoy me that other people would project this like artsy film boy character onto him, which I just never felt like was his entire self. So I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm happy for him to be real. And I'm like, yeah, of course this is who you are. I knew that. Happy to see it.
Well, Timothy, if you ever want to come on the podcast and explain football to us and also simultaneously have a very erotic, quote-unquote, platonic friendship with us, like you do with every girl you interact with in every film.
I would love it. I would make so much fun of you and you would love it.
Miranda, would you hook up with him? If you, if you really, if we were at like a bar and we really, the vibes were so good and he was like, I think you're so hot and like grabbed you by the waist. Would you do it?
Come on. This is redacted information.
Come on. I don't know. Like, I really can't imagine you saying no. Well, yeah, that's something like, why. But I also can't imagine you saying yes, I guess either. But. That's the thing. That's the thing. That's the thing. And that's the thing. And that's exactly.
We'll never know until it happens. So, Timothy, if you want to, like, find me at a bar in the village.
There's a, me and my friends yesterday were playing a YouTube game. And it says celebrities smash her pass. And it was just like male celebrities. And it was so funny. Because it would literally be like. six A-listers in a row and then like, Jacob's Artorius. And you just like can say out loud. Like we just, it was like auto suggested and we like thought it was funny. But there were certain celebrities that are like middle age, they're like 40 year old men that are like pretty, you know, conventionally attractive. And we'd all kind of be split like whether or not we said smash or pass.
And I was like, okay, well, listen, the issue with this person is if I was a celebrity and if I had a million celebrities all over me all the time, I would probably say no to this person. Like, I wouldn't care. Versus if I'm just me as myself, someone who doesn't know celebrities, and they randomly walk into a bar and try to pick me up. Of course I'm saying yes. Like, you know what I mean? There's such a group of people where it's like they're attractive. But if you were always around people like them, you wouldn't care as much versus...
Like, that's what I hate, what a random man is, like, Zendaya's mid. And I'm like, if Zendaya walked into the room, your boxers would physically break from the force of your rock hard boner. Like, come on. You do not know anyone that looks like that in real life. Like, she's impossibly beautiful, you know? Whereas, like, yes, okay, maybe, well, you should never say that about Zendaya either. But like, if Zendaya, for example, we're saying that about a hot man celebrity, I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. And then people are like, oh, she fumbled Timothy. I'm like,
What?
She's dating Spider-Man. She's around these hot-ass male celebrities 24-7. But like, yes, if you're us and you're not around these haughties and then Timothy Shaomace walks in the room, I'm about to do something. And with that, I bid you all a farewell. Thank you so much for listening. Please tune in in just a few days to our Oscars episode. We're going to have to upload it just an hour or two after the Oscars conclude for the night. I am so excited to see what happens.
I'm so excited what everybody wears, specifically Ariana Grande. I am so excited for the frustration that we are literally bound to feel. I cannot wait. Timothy, we're really proud of you. And that's a big deal, considering that my co-host is Miranda McGill, right? It's not very common. And we're inspired and we're really excited to see said documentary about this press tour. And I guess we've answered the question, who is Timothy Shalme?
With the definitive, he's everyone. We've always known who he was.
And now you do too. And I would like to say I never said I'm proud of him, but okay.
I'm saying it for you, though. I just told Timothy already. You can't take it back.
That's okay. Thank you.
Love you all.
Bye. Bye.
Bye.

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